On 4/25/2014 8:04 AM, Dave Tweed wrote: > Isaac Marino Bavaresco wrote: >> The range of defects is varied. Most were traced back to poor soldering, >> some to wrong component placement (I think they did the pick and place >> by hand) and some to defective ICs. >> The real weirdness is that a substantial portion of the defects only can >> be explained by bad dsPIC's FLASH. >> >> One theory is that the Chinese bought a dsPIC lot that didn't pass some >> quality control test and were supposed to be destructed, but somebody >> inside Microchip diverted and sold them illegally. > It seems to me that given the other issues this manufacturer has, it's > possible that they are simply destroying the (perfectly good) chips throu= gh > mishandling -- e.g., poor ESD procedures. > > -- Dave Tweed Yours is the correct answer. MC's newest parts are much more susceptible=20 to ESD than earlier PIC generations. Chinese assembly shops are rarely big factories, but are located in=20 homes, on kitchen tables, instead. Microchip has a history of being VERY MUCH in control of problems,=20 except for firmware errors within the device itself; as a result, it has=20 been my protocol to not design in new devices- from anybody. --Bob A --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .