OK, it works. I had to change to the 24H chip - the 24F does not have the alternate ICSP pins in the right spot. With the 24H, if I change the config to use PGD3, and throw the switch, when I load the 24H, it indeed does load. --=20 Larry Bradley =20 Orleans (Ottawa) Canada=20 On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 16:36 -0400, William Bross wrote: > John, > Those pins are the ICSP pins. They are used for programming and=20 > debugging. But in order to make them work, you have to set the compiler= =20 > up to point to the right pair of pins in the config words. Besides, if=20 > you think about it, your PICkit, ICD, REALice has to program the chip=20 > and set the debug stuff up for the emulator to work. So, programming is= =20 > just programming without the debug stuff. > Bill >=20 > John J. McDonough wrote: >=20 > >I'm not convinced that you can program with those pins, only debug. > > > >--McD > > > >On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 14:28 -0400, William Bross wrote: > > =20 > > > >>Larry, > >> > >>Did you change the configuration bit settings to use the programming=20 > >>port that matches the switch setting?=20 > >> > >>Bill > >> > >>Larry Bradley wrote: > >> > >> =20 > >> > >>>I have the Microstick II and have been using it quite successfully. > >>> > >>>However, there is one thing I can't figure out - the little switch on > >>>the side. The schematic shows it selects either PGEDA/PGECA or > >>>PGEDB/PGECB as the load/debug interface. > >>> > >>>If I switch to the "D" interface, the programmer can't talk to the chi= p. > >>> > >>>I wanted to use the RB0 and Rb1 ports (which are also PGEDA/PGECA pins= ) > >>>for something else. > >>> > >>>Thoughts? > >>>=20 > >>> > >>> =20 > >>> > > > > > > =20 > > >=20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .