I have been using the Microchip ICD2 debugger/programmer (The one that looks like a one pound tobacco tin) for some years now for working with mid range PICSs - mainly 16F8xx. I see that it appears to have been superseded by PICKITs 2 & 3. What advantage would I gain by changing to the PICKIT? --=20 __________________________________________ David C Brown 43 Bings Road Whaley Bridge High Peak Phone: 01663 733236 Derbyshire eMail: dcb.home@gmail.com SK23 7ND web: www.bings-knowle.co.uk/dcb --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .