Hi! I don't remember the details about the programmer. I just bought it because I was tired of having problems, a few limitations with my old ICD2 and had a strong real-time project to do where speed, logic probes and the possibility to display various graphs of real time system behaviour would help me a lot. Also, I had some money to spare in my lab :) This won't help me to sell it but, to be honest, I remember I tried to set a breakpoint triggered by the external logic probe. I don't know if I was doing something wrong or it's a REAL ICE "feature" but the microcontroller stopped a few ms later (about 10?) . So it stopped *very* instructions away from where It should... For the rest, It worked as I expected. About the eBay category... well this is my first auction at eBay. I posted the item at eBay Spain in the closest category I found. Nothing to do with metalworking :) But when I set shipping worldwide it was sorted to this category was automatically(?). At least at eBay.com... Regards, Ovidio On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote: > Hi. > > My main point is to try to decide if this RealICE add enough > of development "power" compared to my PICkit2/3 tools without > adding a lot of extra stuff to what is offered in the auction. > > Another thing (for Ovidio). :-) > Maybe this item is in the wrong category? > > Business & Industrial > > Manufacturing & Metalworking > > Metalworking Tooling > > Other > > A least on the eBay.com site... > > Jan-Erik. > > > > > > > alan.b.pearce@stfc.ac.uk wrote 2014-04-08 12:52: >>> I've browsed around the MC site, bit I still have to ask... >>> >>> I'm comming from a Wisp648/PICkit2-3 background... :-) >>> >>> What I'm not clear about is, how much can you do with this tool (RealIC= E) >>> without buying device specific headers? I looked at a datasheet of an >>> enhanged PIC16 (PIC16F1939) and it says that the RealICE "is connected = to >>> the target with either a connector compatible with in-circuit debugger >>> systems..." >> >> You can do anything the Pickit2/3 will do, and if the Pickit doesn't req= uire a device specific header then the RealICE won't either. Effectively it= is the top end ICE2/3 with a bit more capability. I believe it comes with = a header that converts from the RJ12 connector that the ICE/RealICE uses to= the pin header that the Pickit uses. If not then such a header is certainl= y available separately. >> >>> It also says that "MPLAB REAL ICE offers significant advantages over >>> competitive emulators including full-speed emulation, run-time variable >>> watches, trace analysis, complex breakpoints, logic probes, a ruggedize= d >>> probe interface and long (up to three meters) interconnection cables." >>> Can all this be done without the extra headers/aapters? >> >> Yes - where the device allows it. Note that a number of those features a= re only available in PIC24 and up chips. >> >> You can also get high speed differential interface that works with the P= IC32 chips that speeds up the communication from the chip to the RealICE, a= nd there is also an isolated interface available for doing switch mode powe= r supplies and other systems where you don't want the debugger/PC combinati= on at the target voltage. >> >>> >>> Or the question can be put in another way, how much adds the RealICE >>> *without any extra headers* to a PICkit3 as a dev tool? >> >> It is a lot more flexible in its operation - but this is chip dependant.= Have a look in the readme files that come with MPLAB(X) where it maps out = the functionality with different chips, and what chips require device speci= fic headers. >> >> >> > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .