It was FR-4 On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 6:32 PM, RussellMc wrote: > On 5 April 2014 12:54, David VanHorn wrote: > > > *> I saw a PCB which was entirely UL-94V0 go up in flames while connected > to a * > *> brick supply in "hiccup" mode, delivering only 1w average to the board= ..* > > Was it FR4 material or something like paper-phenolic (rated to UL-94 V0). > > > > > I've mentioned it here before, but a web search on "Low voltage, the > > incompetent ignition source" will turn up a very interesting article. > > > > > > The full title tells you what it's about (although Dave's citing it is a = ra > ther > strong clue). > > LOW VOLTAGE > THE *IN*COMPETENT IGNITION SOURCE > DISPELLING THE MYTH > > from: > > http://www.kodiakconsulting.com/page19/assets/Low%20Voltage_The%20Incompe= tent%20Ignition%20Source_Final.pdf > > ABSTRACT > > The present, widely held belief is that products powered by "low voltage= " > (typically less than > 24V) electrical energy are incapable of starting fires since there exists > an insufficient level of energy to > produce sufficient heat and ignition. By analyzing commonly implemented > electronic circuits found in a > variety if household electronic devices, manufactured using standard wave > solder or surface mount > technology (SMT) processes, single point failures will be discussed and > induced that demonstrate ignition > at low voltages, or more precisely, low power levels. Through the > application of a thoughtfully designed > series of experiments, this paper will demonstrate that voltages as low a= s > 3VDC and power levels in the 3W > range or less, are entirely capable of igniting proximate fuel packages > sufficient to produce sustained fire in > a variety of electronic assemblies. > > __________ > > UL 94 V-x requirements > > http://web.rtpcompany.com/info/ul/ul94v012.htm > > UL 94 - Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UL_94 > > Digikey - 3 pages.Notes that UL 94 V0 starts on page 2. Page 1 is the muc= h > less demanding UL94-HB. Not actually stated there !!!! but contains a > section that reads ~~=3D "allows flaming incendiary arrows to rain down o= n > hapless crowd below". > > _____________________ > > I dislike PCB materials which are cited as UL94-V0 as an effective MATERI= AL > spec, rather than as a safety spec. > eg a device may be said to use FR4 and UL94V0 PCBs. The FR4 will be for t= he > main PCB(s) latter is usually for small assemblies such as switches or > sensors. This may well be a material made of paper laminated with class B > clarified Yak's butter, or perhaps Phenolic material. This is usually use= d > instead of FR$ either due to lower cost or (more likely) due to ability t= o > be punched. FR$ tends to blunt punching dies in under 1000 operations. > Such materials may fracture due to relatively mild stresses or just becau= se > they want to. If the fracture line is crossed by a PCB track or tracks it > is liable to be broken. (Ask me how I know). > > Some manufacturers offer only FR4 or equivalent and use more expensive > routing instead of punching. > > > > > Russell > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .