>=20 > You're talking about AF447? Not entirely accurate - yes the pitot iced ov= er > and gave incorrect airspeed, which is why it tripped out of autopilot, bu= t > the pitot cleared fairly quickly and the plane was fully functional for t= he > majority of the incident. The co-pilot pulled back on the stick increasin= g > the angle of attack, which is what slowed the plane down - throttles were > on full power when it crashed. Plenty of warning - the stall alarm was > sounding most of the time, and all instruments apart from the airspeed > indicator were fully functional at all times, hence it was clear that the > plane was climbing (until it stalled and started dropping) and that the > ground speed (based on GPS, fully functional at all times) was decreasing= .. > It should have been obvious to anybody with even basic flight training wh= at > was happening and what the solution was, but the co-pilot kept the stick > back regardless and flew it into the sea. Totally incomprehensible from a > trained professional pilot flying for a major airline - the suggestion is > that pilots of modern planes have learned to rely on the autopilot and > automatic systems which usually prevent stalling (when the pitot iced it > tripped out of that protection and clearly the co-pilot wasn't prepared f= or > that). There were actually 3 pilots, The captain and 2 co-pilots, although the captain was reliefed and didn't enter the cockpit until it was too late. Full report here: /Ruben --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .