Martin, That was apparently the problem. I didn't see any significant glitch with the scope, but found that using a larger USB cable and moving the PICKIT3+circuit far from the noisy computer/TFT and backend instruments, the required voltage went down to 3.05V with repeatable results. So it looks like I will have to pay more attention to the environment before programming parts, or use a custom Faraday cage for the task. Thanks for the insight. Ariel Rocholl On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Martin Klingensmith wrot= e: > On 3/11/2014 9:15 AM, Ariel Rocholl wrote: > > Martin, > > > > Yes, capacitors, layout and power is according to MCHIP requirements (s= ee > > my answer to Alan). > > Perhaps the only difference is ICD3, being a reliable option when > compared > > to Pickit3. > > > > Regards, > > Ariel Rocholl > > My only other guess would be ringing on the PGC or PGD line[s] > Perhaps a higher voltage improves the rise time or raises the ringing > above the threshold. > You can probe the programming lines and see what they look like on a > scope (10x) > > - > Martin K > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .