On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Carl Denk wrote: > And then there was an > Airbus not long ago, the Pitot tube (air speed sensor) that iced over, > even our little home built had a heater on it. Gave incorrect airspeed > to all systems, pilot flew too slow, no warning, just wing stalled and > went straight down, quickly. > You're talking about AF447? Not entirely accurate - yes the pitot iced over and gave incorrect airspeed, which is why it tripped out of autopilot, but the pitot cleared fairly quickly and the plane was fully functional for the majority of the incident. The co-pilot pulled back on the stick increasing the angle of attack, which is what slowed the plane down - throttles were on full power when it crashed. Plenty of warning - the stall alarm was sounding most of the time, and all instruments apart from the airspeed indicator were fully functional at all times, hence it was clear that the plane was climbing (until it stalled and started dropping) and that the ground speed (based on GPS, fully functional at all times) was decreasing. It should have been obvious to anybody with even basic flight training what was happening and what the solution was, but the co-pilot kept the stick back regardless and flew it into the sea. Totally incomprehensible from a trained professional pilot flying for a major airline - the suggestion is that pilots of modern planes have learned to rely on the autopilot and automatic systems which usually prevent stalling (when the pitot iced it tripped out of that protection and clearly the co-pilot wasn't prepared for that). As for MH370, lots of speculation about what happened and a lot of misinformation (some of which has been repeated here), very little real information. See http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/535538-malaysian-airlines-mh370-contact-= lost.htmlfor some well informed comments (amongst a lot of rubbish!) Chris --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .