Writing this to this list as I know quite few of you have knowledge on avia= tion. I am just thinking how could the most sophisticated airliner just dis= appear in thin air? Ground control use radar and beacons as they trust in t= hese much better than any other positioning devices, I get that. I also tot= ally understand that the plane was flying in an area that was uncovered by = radar - at least by commercial radars. But the most modern airliner has no = GPS at all on board? Or they do have but just could not send back the posit= ion to the ground control? Tamas Sent from my iPad --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .