> I've been using devices from this family for a while and all them, accord= ing to > my experience with PICKIT3, seems to require at least 3.5VDC while being > programmed, otherwise fail to program. Sometimes I can get them to > program as low as 3.35VDC but most of the time they won't, whereas 3.5VDC > seems to be good enough 90% of the time. I've never been able to program > these parts with 3.0VDC which is within specs. >=20 >=20 > The programmer used is PICKIT3 with external power in a circuit, but beha= ves > the same if I connect an isolated device to PICKIT3 itself, using self po= wer or > external power. No difference. >=20 >=20 > The microchip programming specification for these parts is 3.0-3.6V > (parameter D111 on DS70619B document) with an instantaneous current > during programming of 200mA (parameter D114). Looking into the errata for > these parts does not mention anything regarding programming voltages that > could lead to think this is a known issue. My response would be to ask how you are measuring the voltage. Using the PicKit3? This, to me, would be a highly suspect way to do it. A DVM at the chip itself? This would be the best way, especially if it is a= known calibrated DVM, and ideally has a max/min function like the Fluke 89= IV or similar meters, which will track the voltage changes and allow you t= o read them out later. How is the PCB arranged? Planes for both Vcc & Gnd, with recommended caps o= n all power pins? Note that the Vcap pin MUST have the recommended cap valu= e on it. IIRC the recommended value is 10uF ceramic or other low ESR, altho= ugh IIRC they do say you can go to 4.7uF. I do seem to remember this issue = coming up in the Microchip forums, and this being a MUST DO. --=20 Scanned by iCritical. --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .