I'm baaaaaaack! Quick revival, I've been searching high and low for appropriate crystals at appropriate prices(!), and the major issue is that most "cheap" ones aren't listing a load capacitance! Is there any way of determining the load capacitance, or more accurately what the appropriate load capacitor values should be? Or is the "standard 22pf caps" "close enough"? As an example, the cheapest I can source small quantities (5x,10x,50x) of a 3225 crystal (or similar size +/- a few mm) with a KNOWN load capacitance, is about $1.30 each. If I source those with UNKNOWN load capacitance (and no known brand), then it is more like $0.40 each. As an aside, the likes of Digikey/Mouser/Farnell want to charge in the order of $30+ to ship a couple of crystals! RS, on the other hand, have a local office with free pickup. I'm primarily doing 8bit sound playback, interrupting @ 16kHz, with some I2C to an accelerometer and SPI (or nearly-SPI) to other devices; the RS232 comms is primarily for debugging and development, obtaining raw accel data for analysis for future function incorporation, so comms doesn't need to be the fastest available (code will also be stripped back to bare basics at this time). I do prefer the idea of having an external crystal or resonator, I can't remember why off-hand but there was some valid reasoning... Lee --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .