> > > > Interestingly airlines are happier with lithium batteries inside > > equipment than with batteries packed seperately. Presumablly because > > there is less risk of getting a large concentration of batteries > > stacked together that way. > > >=20 > Also less chance of the batteries being shorted - otherwise with pretty m= uch > any battery I've come across you have exposed terminals. I'm still wonder= ing > what actually resulted in the LiPo causing that (if indeed it > did) as I understood the danger is in charging or shorting out a battery,= which > doesn't seem all that likely with a battery installed in a RC model - the= only > high current pathway even if stuff malfunctions should be via the motor, > which would limit the peak current (any other pathway should be via thin > traces which would act as fuses - they certainly do in my personal > experience!) Don't see why it should be an issue leaving batteries instal= led in > things. I wouldn't be surprised at something like this happening with an installed= battery, especially if the battery has no short circuit protection circuit= ry inside it.=20 Consider the emergency beacon that caught fire in a Boeing Dreamliner while= it was sitting on the tarmac at Heathrow Airport in London. My pick for th= e cause of the fire is a tantalum or ceramic capacitor going short circuit,= a well-known failure mode for both classes of component, and I have had mu= ltiple examples of it happening within my experience. My pick would be that= this is what happened in this toy, causing the battery to catch fire. These days you can get tantalum capacitors with a built in fuse for use in = critical positions, see the Kemet 04053/T496 series ... http://www.kemet.com/kemet/web/homepage/kechome.nsf/file/KEM_T2010_T496.pdf= /$file/KEM_T2010_T496.pdf I believe Tantalum-Polymer versions mitigate against the short circuit fail= ure mode, but that still leaves ceramic capacitors as a weak point ... --=20 Scanned by iCritical. --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .