> Just curious, do you still have those flaky chips? Yes, only a couple. They are useable and actually work fine when running and I've put them into service with code matured on the ones which program without a fuss. I'll keep those for development until I can request new stock or samples that are later than Rev1 Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .