I've been on Piclist on an off since about 2006. Other than the wonderful = OT's we have, I most was into the PIC messages. I had a couple of development boards, and a few other things. I think that= the "best" thing I came up with was a serial connection between me and the= PIC board, connected to a stepper motor. From a windows terminal, I could= enter L4 and it would go left 4 "steps". And a few other very simple comm= ands like that. The PIC would read them and make the stepper motor do what= I told it to do. All in PIC assembler. Which I loved working with. The = PIC chips are wonderful computers to program. But just knowing how to program a PIC was just more of the same for me. I = just had to understand things like PWM, I2C, analogue input, and all the ni= ce IO stuff PICs can do. =20 I finally figured out how, after all these years of working with computers = and also doing a lot of development, how a CPU really works. By writing in= a very simple HDL, I was able to create NANDs to NORs to ANDs ORs XORs Mux= 's, up to a nice ALU. I haven't done the next step, the CPU with all the o= ther stuff in it. Now I am focused on electronics. Analogue electronics I mean. I don't wan= t to be wiring any logic gates if I don't have to, other than maybe a simpl= e transistor latch. I want to understand what all the resistors, capacitor= s, and other analogue components do and how they work together. I would li= ke to be able to look at a schematic, point out a resistor or capacitor or = transistor and have at least a good idea why it is there. I think that with a breadboard, a good set of components, a multimeter and = a USB scope, and the myriad books I have, plus kind help from this group, I= can now focus on learning how EE works. I even have an excel spreadsheet where I'm trying to keep all the math peo= ple suggest to me. I got me and my girlfriend a Lego Mindstorms for xmas. Probably after the = 25th I will be moving my breadboards and other junk to a safe place for a w= hile. :-) But then back to learning. :-) BR; Lindy ________________________________________ From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [piclist-bounces@mit.edu] on behalf of Herber= t Graf [hkgraf@gmail.com] Sent: 12 December 2013 18:25 To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: RE: [EE] Help configuring a 555 On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 16:03 +0000, David C Brown wrote: > Cost of 555: 50c > Cost of PIC: 20c > Cost of programmer, $40 > > Cheaper? Cost of programmer for some: $0, since I already have one. I don't know if the op has a programmer, if they don't it's not that big a deal to get and will open up vastly more possibilities. That said, knowing how to properly use a 555 is a valuable experience to have. It all depends on where one is going with things. TTYL --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .