My snubbers at the relay coils are as close to the coils as I can get.=20 The vendor's solenoids have no snubbers, about 10" wire, screw terminal=20 (where I tie the relays with 16" wire), and an inch PCB trace to the=20 chip. The UNL2803 "A" is supposed to have snubbers. I would prefer if=20 there were current limiting resistors at the chip. On 12/11/13 4:56 PM, David VanHorn wrote: > Where are the snubbers? I suspect you need them at the coils, and at th= e > chip through the common diode into a zener to ground. --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .