> > > > Could use this in the States--we need the exercise. > Not a vast amount of exercise provided alas. Lifting 2 x 30 can packs of Coke 1 metre from floor to a shelf will run it for 15 minutes. Drinking the Coke results in a net overall weight gain. R --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .