In my previous reply I forgot to directly mention your BMX adventure. FWIW, as a retired police investigator, I suspect that there was more going on in that area than you were made aware of. Allen > -----Original Message----- > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist- > bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of RussellMc > Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 8:10 AM > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Subject: Re: [OT]: Visiting Shenzen >=20 > On 17 November 2013 03:40, Justin Richards > wrote: >=20 > > On 28 September 2013 03:53, John Ferrell > wrote: > > > > > Please bring us back pictures, do not bother to edit > them, this is not a > > > graded exercise! > > > I am the sort of fellow who gets off a Cruise ship and > walks the > > > neighborhoods rather than the shops! > > > > > > > > A mix of 14 days in Shenzhen > > > > > > > https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=3Da.1020234743 > 6189114.1073741825.1288513066&type=3D1&l=3D77c4e83884 > > > > Hard to compete with Russell's but as they are not graded > ... > > >=20 >=20 > Yours are fine. > My Shenzhen photos are much the same as yours - in both > cases they were > largely (as far as I can see :-) ) not intended to be "artistic > creations" > but rather snapshots of what is seen while walking through > the area. The > one "improvement:" that I'd suggest is to, if possible, load > your photos in > Facebook "high resolution" mode with a long side of 2048 > pixels (or > greater). This is Facebook's maximum allowed resolution. > Larger gets > compressed. Loading in landscape mode will then more than > fill an HD 1080 > (or more screen). >=20 > I thought that yours complemented my "Last train to > Shuagalong" album >=20 > http://bit.ly/LastTraintoShuagalong >=20 > Most of yours are taken in locations that I did not visit (apart > from the > electronics areas) - easily achieved as it's a vast city. > But 112 and 114 and others near there (lake and goldfish) > look very like > the park near Dongmen walking street. >=20 > _______________ >=20 > I was surprised by a comment which I saw but now cannot > refind which said > something like "Russell does not take photos of ordinary > people but > concentrates on youth & beauty." > While there is some bias towards such (especially 'beauty'? > :-) ) I thought > I managed a very wide mix of people and situations. As a > check, I did a > 'stroke count' of photos in my LTTS album (photos 50-99 and > 100-149 and > scored them under broad headings - and there seems to be > a good sampling of > "ordinary folk" and situations. > ( eg at least 75 79 81 82 85 91 93 94 96 97 ...) >=20 > _______________ >=20 > FWIW: I'm always aware of the bias with male > photographers towards > achieving a 'sample set' biased somewhat towards young > female content. > Young is a very relative term - when you achieve more > exalted years the > range of "young" also grows :-). When I photograph > 'commissioned events' > such as weddings, parties, birthdays etc I try to be aware of > such > tendencies and make special efforts to increase the male / > older content. > The reasons for a bias in photo content are complex and not > always well > understood or acknowledged. There is the obvious fact that > the males (in > most cases) are programmed towards young and beautiful > [tm] females. But > women tend to be 'more interesting' in dress and > presentation (and women > photographers find this too), are generally keener to be > photographed, are > more liable to expect a man to want to photograph them (ie > men are more > liable to wonder why), and it's easier for a man to approach > women than men > (other side of same factor). Add it all up and you can get a > substantial > bias. [I tell people that I like to photograph males and > females, young and > old, and if they happen to be young, female and pretty [tm], > so much the > better. :-) ] I'm a committed Christian and wish to conduct > myself in a > manner that honours the boss's intentions. But I also enjoy > meeting and > interacting with people and believe that life and people are > to be enjoyed. > My perspectives will certainly not match those of all > Christians and some > would look askance at what I consider 'proper'. >=20 > I occasionally take a random sampling of the last year of so > of photos, or > photos from a major trip, or whatever and perform an > informal analysis of > photos under a range of headings. example only! this might > include food, > scenery, people general single female, group of females, > single male, group > of males, young/old/whatever. I have no exact purpose in > doing this but do > like to know my own mind/tendencies/ biases/ ... . Most > people are no doubt > happy enough to 'just take photos' without such analysis. >=20 > _____________ >=20 > Dangerous subject: I'll type this, see how it reads and decide > whether to > delete or include. >=20 > Along with all the rest, I like to take photos of children of all > ages and > of either gender - new born babies on up. > For obvious reasons, I've carefully examined my motives - > important in all > areas but especially so in this one. > In this increasingly wary 'stranger danger' fearing world it > becomes > increasingly risky to behave in what would have once usually > have been a > decent and open and 'pure hearted' manner in such areas. > Interestingly, > and initially to my surprise, China is far more open and > tolerant in this > area than is eg my own country. > I go out of my way to not annoy parents and others and to > not create fears > or concerns with my photography - not just in taking photos > of young people > but across the board. However, the obsessed > photographers of this world (an > affliction similar to being an "engineer" ) tend to have at > least a > smattering of the Paparazzi gene - and sometimes a fairly > large dose > thereof - and one man's 'wholly reasonable behaviour' can > be outside some > other person's comfort zone. Add a stubborn streak of not > wanting to be > arbitrarily be compelled to conform to the world's mold for > no 'good' > reason (may come from an Irish ancestry) and, in occasion, " > it's all on". > On a few occasions I have been reported to the police - > never with anything > like good cause, and always with completely problem free > outcome, but it's > still not a comfortable feeling, and not something I try to > achieve. >=20 > OK - I'll leave that in. >=20 > This photo session at a local BMX park >=20 > http://bit.ly/TePai130727 >=20 > earned me a subsequent visit from the Police. The album > there includes > every photo taken so the Police could see what I had been > doing - rather > than just a subset of the better ones eg >=20 > https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak > -prn1/1236724_528027440604089_410273272_n.jpg > https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak > -prn1/993995_528026567270843_2082406711_n.jpg > https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak > -ash3/1240323_528026780604155_508448135_n.jpg >=20 > Left to my own devices I'll probably come up with material > more like : >=20 > http://bit.ly/RANDOMMUSINGS01 > or http://goo.gl/1S4cm >=20 > Definitely a bias towards 'youth and beauty' - but a large > cross section of > other material as well. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Russell > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list > archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .