> the elephant in the room being the Microchip forum I've gone to the MF more than once with a problem and come away empty-handed every single time. I don't bother any more On PIClist I used to get a good discussion and usually a result or a valuable insight Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .