Thanks for the detailed information, it is quite helpful. :) The 8 LED's backside with the soldered together leads are potted in=20 epoxy, it would be easier to start over. This setup does not get used=20 frequently, but to have a LED failure while in use would not be good.=20 There could be a well drilling rig and crew @$200/hour standing by. From=20 what has been said, I think my best would be start from scratch and=20 either to connect the 8 LED's in series with a LM317 set up as a current=20 regulator. For 3.4 volts * 8 =3D 30.4 volts +3.5 volts =3D 33.9 volts, and= =20 with the Cat-5 losses maybe 5 volts, need say around 40 volt power=20 supply, but then I'm getting out of the camera's LM7812 input range.=20 Probably better leave the current 2 parallel, 4 series configuration,=20 but provide a LM317 current regulator for each of the series strings,=20 and the remainder of the setup as I proposed without the LM317 voltage=20 regulator. On 10/19/13 10:33 AM, RussellMc wrote: > LEDs should (~~=3D must) be driven by constant current. > Trying to drive them with ~=3D their notional Vf will lead to a substanti= al > variation in most cases. > When operating on 12V you should have only 3 LEDs in series, plus current > control.. > When operating with 24V you can have up to about 6 LEDs in series plus > current control. > The more "headroom (aka spare voltage) that you have the easier it is to > get ~=3D constant current with simple circuits. > > It is exceeding bad practice (also exceedingly bad practice) to attempt t= o > drive two parallel strings of LEDs without any attempt to current balance= .. > I have seen some LEDs that are so well matched for Vf that you could > 'almost get away with" doing this, but most LEDs have enough variation, > even in the same batch, to make this problematic. > > LEDs should be driven at MORE than their rated combined Vf with a constan= t > current source taking up the difference. You can use as little as an LM31= 7 > and one resistor as a constant current source. > You'll need about 3.5V "headroom" for an LM317 to operate as a current > source. > eg for 4 LEDs. V min ~=3D 3.8V x 4 =3D 15.2V. > Headroom =3D 3.5V say. > Vinmin=3D 3.5 + 15.2 >=3D 18.7V. > ie ~=3D 24V would be dandy. > > Vin =3D LM317 Vin > Iout =3D LM317 ADj. > Rcc from Vout to Vadj. > Rcc =3D 1.25 / I A =3D 1250 / I_ma > Dissipation in R =3D~ 6/R or 1.25 mW per mA > eg for 25 mA. > R =3D 1.25 / .025 =3D 1250 / 25 =3D 50 Ohms. > Pd_Rcc =3D 50 x 1.25 ~=3D 63 mW. > > If you have 4 LEDs in series and this is unchangeable, you could short on= e > out per group and probably get a better result. > > If these are on only occasionally then 'any brand will do", almost. If th= ey > are intended to spend thousands of hours on over their lifetime then you > should use LEDs from the major LED manufacturers OR ones made under licen= ce > to them. LED lifetimes are still woefully low in many cases - despite > claims to the contrary. > > > Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .