Hi - is the thermometer the oven thermometer? If so beware that it can=20 be way off; the toaster oven I use for reflow is supposedly a pretty=20 quality toaster oven for food, but its thermometer was wayyy off. You=20 could have been really cooking the pcb, my first attempts were clearly=20 way too hot. If you are in the USA consider getting a cheap thermocouple: jameco.com 220741 (Mastech MAS838), $20 including the thermocouple.=20 Works great. I'd recommend getting real solder paste and not going over about 210deg=20 C. That should be fine for leaded solder. With a syringe you can lay=20 down thin lines or dab little bits on each pad. J lee@baudalign.com wrote: > Hi all, can't find any real info on this online so thought I'd ask you gu= ys. > The other day I tried my first "toaster oven" reflow, but instead of usin= g > solder paste I had first hit the pads with a soldering iron and standard > 63/37 solder wire, then plonked the components on top, as per a previous > "HASL reflow" thread. > I just set the oven to 250C and was closely watching both the solder > joints for signs of reflow and the oven thermometer I had in there. I'm > thinking the thermometer was slow to react, or not reading the same heat > as the board was seeing, as around 220C (according to thermometer) the > board started warping, then rapidly released the foul-smelling evil black > goo. > > So a few Q's: > - are the goo fumes poisonous? The only reference I can find anywhere is > from SparkFun, who say it's the glue used to laminate the FR4 / copper, > and that it's really hard to get rid of the smell. No mention of how > dangerous it is though. i got out of there quick-smart and closed the > door, but took a few minutes to gather my wits and open garage doors and > get the board outside. I hadn't been expecting anything like that, so > only had the nearby window wide open for ventilation. > > - any tips on where I stuffed up? I'm still not sure if the solder had > reflowed or not, it's hard to tell when the solder was shiny to begin wit= h > rather than the grey paste state, and though the components seem stuck > down they don't particularly _look_ reflowed. > > - reckon I should just lay down a line of paste using a syringe next time= ? > Part of the board design needs a redesign, so it's not worth making a > stencil; I just want to test a few of the circuit sections that "should" > be properly designed. > > - I think next time I'll do a pre-heat and a pre-soak, my initial > temperature mapping seemed to indicate the heat-up of the oven from cold > was reasonably close to a good reflow profile, but obviously it ain't? > Oh, and I'll do it outside. > > The victim: > http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/9649/f53k.jpg > > Lee > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .