That entire flight was made in ground effect (1/2 wingspan or rotor=20 diameter). That increases the amount of lift available considerably.=20 There have been many planes that crashed, short runway, hot=20 temperatures, high altitude. They get off the runway, not able to=20 accelerate to a speed sufficient to get enough lift out of ground=20 effect. They just fly at a few feet off the ground into trees or=20 whatever obstacle is ahead. This probably explains the higher altitude=20 instability. I doubt that this was the actual first flight, but first time spectators=20 were there. Helicopters commonly are tethered so they are restrained=20 from a foot or 2 off the ground until a little stability is achieved.=20 I'm amazed at the safety precautions taken. A blade could have broke or=20 on a hard landing struck the tail rotor and there would be knife like=20 objects flying all over. Videos of helicopters crashing are far from pretty= .. But this is quite amazing and they deserve credit. I have a friend that is taking a small 2 place helicopter kit,=20 converting it from piston engine to a turbine. Haven't talked to him for=20 a while, don't know his progress, but he did have the turbine and drive=20 train mounted. On 10/8/13 4:16 PM, John Ferrell wrote: > Sounded good, minimal vibration, Death grip on the cyclic(I think), > right arm tight against his leg with fingers very gentle on the > controls, it still was not solid as the altitude increased. Structure > just OK, the man is outstanding! > I wonder what the power plant was. If that was fuel in the jugs it did > not use much. > I have almost given up ever flying even model Heli's. > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .