At 10:23 AM 27/09/2013, you wrote: >Have just booked a trip to Shenzen in November. > >I was looking forward to just arriving and finding my way about. However, >it seems that I must account for my stay before visa is issued. > >I tend to shy away from typically tourist activites, and would enjoy tours >of any electronic manufacturing factories or any manufacturing visits for >that mater. > >I failed an attempted to visit a telephone exchange when previously >overseas and would like to try again. > >I dont know a word of Chinese but hope to learn a few before i arrive. > >Any recommendations on where to stay on a budget, suggestions or hints >warmly welcome. Shenzhen is a big (10M+) city, there are a wide range of possibilities for accommodation. All the hotels will meet some kind of budget ;-) , for a small budget there are quite inexpensive hotels for a city that size, but keep in mind that there is a major benefit in having staff that speak your language available. Sometimes even with an appointment and an address written legibly in hanzi, and confirmed with online maps, it can be difficult to navigate, particularly in the suburban light-industrial wastelands of=20 Bao'an etc. Even in a midrange hotel, don't expect a high degree of English proficiency= , and you won't be disappointed. Expect none at all from taxi drivers and tra= nsit workers. If you only learn a few characters, the ones for cardinal directio= ns (and middle), entrance, exit, and male/female (for washrooms) will be most useful. I normally book through a Chinese online travel agency such as elong or ctrip, though more recently you can book easily through the more usual agencies used in the rest of the world. You'll find it most productive to arrange factory visits through your business or personal connections. Novelty aside, a strange (and functionally illiterate) foreigner showing up at the door unannounced would not receive the warmest of welcomes in most cases. Access to Wi-Fi outside the cocoon of a hotel is a bit more problematic than in most places- for example, Starbucks has free Wi-Fi, but due to regulations (I think) they require authentication using a cellphone=20 on a Chinese account. Many of us use paid proxy services to avoid certain limitations in Internet access- they don't seem serious enough about the Firewall to block us (or perhaps they like us funneling through a few pipes so they can keep a better eye on us)-- either way it's not a problem unless you're really up to no good*- in which case, good luck in = your dealings with the PSB etc. They have recently (in the last couple years) greatly increased their=20 information gathering in the visa application process. It used to be a simple=20 one-side-of-one page affair, but now it's considerable more involved. They may still=20 be using the old-style simple forms at the LoWu border crossing (Americans need=20 not apply, BTW) for the limited SEZ-only visa. --sp *Alleged Chinese curse: "May you come to the attention of important people". --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .