Driveway sensor ? If you are able to lay a loop of wire in the ground you should be able to detect movement and/or proximity. Particularly if the signature of the gate was enhanced with a few magnets Think of it as looking for a metal detector with a gate ;-)) Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .