I have a project in mind that would need some range finding under water. It would require a transponder that is, I believe the term is omni=20 directional, meaning the ping goes out in all directions. I have heard that you can make a transducer using a piezo speaker but=20 was wondering if anyone had seen any thing about this. What it is for is under water ROV. I can share more details if anyone=20 is interested. I started this project about 10 years ago but then had a heart attack=20 and had to stop working on it. I have decided to put this project in my=20 bucket list. I now live part time in a small city of Algoma, Wisconsin which is on the shores of Lake Michigan. =20 Every time I see the lake I want to send down my UWROV to explore the=20 lake bottom. This project will allow me to return to a spot time and time again. Bob --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .