Hat: No. > You need to pay for electricity as well but there exists free energy. > Now who is ridiculous ? I suggest that people do not want to answer that question as asked, if at a= ll. FWIW, the statement was that an argument was ridiculous - not a person. The difference can be very significant. Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .