I couldn't hold myself, sorry... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DaboZctrHfK8 On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 9:19 PM, graham foulkes wrote= : > Hi > Saw some oxy acetylene torch work being done at a stone quarry on granite > slabs to give a textured finish to the stone. It was blowing, speltching, > off grapefruit segment sized chunks of stone at a great rate. The Romans, > or maybe Hannibal, used heat and vinegar to clear boulders and rock > outcrops as he crossed the Alps. Percussion drills, electrically powered > Kango hammers, I have used to break up concrete, no rotation just > percussion, works great. > > > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 6:58 AM, RussellMc wrote: > > > > > CC HCL is about 65% AFAIR > > > Nah; HCl tops out at about 37%; that's all that will dissolve in wate= r. > > > BTW, the younger daughter's science project showed that 30% HCl will > > dissolve turkey overnight, while 30% Sulphuric acid takes several days. > So > > while I normally would rate Sulphuric as more dangerous (probably becau= se > > concentrated H2SO4 is ~98% (!)), HCl is nothing to sneeze at=85 > > > > Conc H2SO4 - traditionally called Vitriol or Oil of Vitriol, is a VERY > > strong dessicant and causes massive skin disfiguration essentially > > insytantly. Its the acid traditionally used in disfiguring avcid > > attacks. > > > > Commercial conc HCL is FAR milder. Just majorly painful when poured on > > uyour face.Aske me how I know :-(. > > > > I've told the story here before I think so I'll give the super short > > version. > > When a teenager I reached up to an above window shelf in a dark > > workshop and a bottle of HCL that was on the ledge and had had the > > cork (made form cork) eaten by the acid. rotated down over my upturned > > face and covered face and eyes with conc HCKL. I had not lnown the > > acid was there (somebody else stored it) but had a fair idea of what > > it was. Taste is super super super ... string lemon and eyes burn > > almost maximally*. I did the blind lemon burning sprint for a front > > outside tap - probably 10 to 20 seconds away. and after a long long > > long period washing out my eyes et al ended up with no long term > > obvious ill effects. > > > > ___________________ > > > > * Maximal eye burning pain may be what is experienced when surfacing > > from a swimming pool, head thrown back, so a floating patch of > > super-waterproof glue floating on the surface covers your eye. Nasty > > nasty stuff, 110% VOC, hard to remove (super waterproof) ... . Took > > many many many weeks for eye to get back to normal but, again, no > > obvious long term effect.The fun we've had :-). > > > > > > Russell > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > View/change your membership options at > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .