Hi Saw some oxy acetylene torch work being done at a stone quarry on granite slabs to give a textured finish to the stone. It was blowing, speltching, off grapefruit segment sized chunks of stone at a great rate. The Romans, or maybe Hannibal, used heat and vinegar to clear boulders and rock outcrops as he crossed the Alps. Percussion drills, electrically powered Kango hammers, I have used to break up concrete, no rotation just percussion, works great. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 6:58 AM, RussellMc wrote: > > > CC HCL is about 65% AFAIR > > Nah; HCl tops out at about 37%; that's all that will dissolve in water. > > BTW, the younger daughter's science project showed that 30% HCl will > dissolve turkey overnight, while 30% Sulphuric acid takes several days. = So > while I normally would rate Sulphuric as more dangerous (probably because > concentrated H2SO4 is ~98% (!)), HCl is nothing to sneeze at=85 > > Conc H2SO4 - traditionally called Vitriol or Oil of Vitriol, is a VERY > strong dessicant and causes massive skin disfiguration essentially > insytantly. Its the acid traditionally used in disfiguring avcid > attacks. > > Commercial conc HCL is FAR milder. Just majorly painful when poured on > uyour face.Aske me how I know :-(. > > I've told the story here before I think so I'll give the super short > version. > When a teenager I reached up to an above window shelf in a dark > workshop and a bottle of HCL that was on the ledge and had had the > cork (made form cork) eaten by the acid. rotated down over my upturned > face and covered face and eyes with conc HCKL. I had not lnown the > acid was there (somebody else stored it) but had a fair idea of what > it was. Taste is super super super ... string lemon and eyes burn > almost maximally*. I did the blind lemon burning sprint for a front > outside tap - probably 10 to 20 seconds away. and after a long long > long period washing out my eyes et al ended up with no long term > obvious ill effects. > > ___________________ > > * Maximal eye burning pain may be what is experienced when surfacing > from a swimming pool, head thrown back, so a floating patch of > super-waterproof glue floating on the surface covers your eye. Nasty > nasty stuff, 110% VOC, hard to remove (super waterproof) ... . Took > many many many weeks for eye to get back to normal but, again, no > obvious long term effect.The fun we've had :-). > > > Russell > > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .