You can have problems with programming some PICs (16F6XX, for example)=20 if you use: internal oscillator MCLR as input pin HV programming AND an external VDD (not controlled by programmer) I don't know if this affects 18F parts or not. Kerry Matt Rhys-Roberts wrote: > In the case of an 18F part at least, can the ICD2/ICD3 be successfully=20 > used for programming and debugging when the PIC is only intended for=20 > int.osc. use? > > I've only ever developed PICs with external oscillators attached, so=20 > have never needed to wonder. > > Thanks, > Matt > =20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .