Resend - as it didn't seem to get through the first time.=20 I've just been looking at the website www.byvac.com. In a similar way that= =20 Muvium Java environment for Pic works, this is a an Interpreted=20 Basic/Compiled Function using a PIC32 called ByPic. The BASIC program=20 language being installed on the PIC itself. The Basic is held in RAM where via an editor it can be written and compiled= =20 to Flash RAM on the fly. They state that the PIC can run each instruction in 2.5us. Communication with the PIC is via a serial connection This means there is no writing code, simulate, program cycle. Most hardware= =20 functions are precompiled, so to access for example the ADC, you just type= =20 adc_init(channel_number) x=3Dadc_get(channel_number) And your done, whilst in RAM you can make as many alterations to your code and test it out in PIC, once all is OK you then flash it to flash memory. It is aimed at beginners and naturally they have their own Arduino style=20 development boards. Looks interesting. Colin -- cdb, on 28/07/2013 --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .