I will be very happy to ramble on on this subject at length "shortly". At present I MUST not. Time ... . 'To go on with' here re some of my thoughts on things solar, some of which will be relevant. Subset with extra search terms if it looks useful. http://bit.ly/RMcSolar I'd probably start off with an 'old dead almost free ' battery to get a feel for things. Look at wonderful Gaisma for sun data for your cityu http://www.gaisma.com/en/location/melbourne.html By month. KwH/m^2/day. Variable IIIIII IVV VIVIIVIII IXX XIXII Insolation, kWh/m=B2/day6.15 5.654.= 343.07 2.12 1.661.81 2.523.40 4.605.63 6.07 So your 20W panel optimally used with give about 20 x 1.66 =3D 33 Wh on an average mid Winter day and 6.15 x 20 =3D 123 Wh on an average mid-Summer da= y. If you can store about 25 Wh of your Winter energy you'd get 2.5W over 10 hours. IF the 250 mA is at 12V then that's about right for 1 night's operation. The 25 Wh is about 2+ Ah of capacity so a 7Ah battery would be about 1/3 discharged by a 10 hour 250 mA load. Less deep the better, as you will know= .. A 40 Ah or so large car battery would be discharged to about 2.5/40 =3D < 7= % by the same load. How the car battery would far on 7% discharges compared to a 7Ah deep cycle battery at 33% is TBD but ** WAIT **** I misread the price. At $14.90 Australian that battery is a bargain. Buy it while it's still on special! :-) If that's a *genuine Panasonic* AGM deep discharge 7Ah 12V it's an utter bargain. If its a "double flying horse", maybe not. More anon. Buy the battery NOW. What price for panels? Large (250W) panels have sold here recently for $NZ1/Watt (!!!) Anon Russell On 19 July 2013 16:17, Grant Tudor wrote: > I have decided my winter project is to install some solar powered LED > lights in my hot house so I can start growing my tomatoes earlier this > year. I have the lights already and they draw about 250mA. For the batter= y > I am thinking of using a 7Ah, 12V SLA - something like this: > > > http://www.rockby.com.au/catresults.cfm?imageField2.x=3D0&imageField2.y= =3D0&stock_no=3D38696 > > I am looking for some suggestions re charger and panels. I would like to > look at some 20W panels - starting with 1 or 2 (increasing the number as = I > come up with other ideas). The panels will be mounted on a tin roof shed > adjoining the hot house. > > The intent is not to just buy a solution and get someone to install, but = to > do some of it myself and learn a bit along the way. > > I am in Melbourne, Australia (in case anyone knows of some options in thi= s > particular location). > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .