Can't add anything useful about the Pic in question, but I just went through a painful Pickit3 adventure.... Bought six new Pickit 3, couldn't get a single one to communicate with my development machine (win7-64, MpLab 8.87, selected device dsPic33fj128mc804= ) Plug one in, Mplab hangs on connecting. Unplug/replug it connects, but hangs on downloading bootloader. An older (six months?) Pickit 3 works fine on this PC. After many hours of frustration and hair pulling, I did a virgin install of MpLab 8.91 on a different computer. Plug in the Pickit3 and it connects and updates all the relevant firmware - now they work fine on my development machine too. -Denny --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .