> You have to ask yourself whether the actual programming time is significa= nt compared > to (for example) moving the chips into and out of the ZIF sockets... And if building your own gang programmer is really going to make enough com= mercial difference compared to having Microchip program them for you (as ha= s already been mentioned). The cost of having Microchip program them must be less than the labour to m= ake the programming connection if the chips are on a board, or to insert th= e chip in a ZIF socket - without worrying about removing the plug or chip a= nd the wait time. --=20 Scanned by iCritical. --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .