It is only possible to have reasoned, intelligent discussion if all parties have reasoned, intelligent discussion. And if you look at the first reply in the thread, you will see how, practically, that is impossible. Sorry, but we've been there and done that. Rather than exclude trolls we now exclude the bait. Rather than wait for things to get out of hand I work as quickly as possible to pour cold water on them. This is why we can't have nice things. Thanks for your understanding. Bob On Mon, Jun 3, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Al Shinn wrote: > A very friendly disagreement: > I for one welcome and am very interested in the topic of patents. I find= =20 > this thread not very off topic at all, in fact almost [EE] or perhaps=20 > [TECK] but not quite. Many of us here make a living in the field of=20 > technology, patents can be an important part of that. Any pertinent info= =20 > should be welcome. > Further, Bob's post is confusing to me since the ROE clearly state(d?)=20 > that off topic posts are welcome. Or have those rules changed? >=20 > BUT, I do appreciate the hard work that our admins. do, cheers to you > all. >=20 > Some digging brings me to: > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist : > "[OT] This label is for posts that are completely off the topic of=20 > engineering/technology. The only things we don't ever want to see are=20 > religious/metaphysical, sex, hate, or political messages. >=20 > I could almost see labeling this thread as political (since the USO is a= =20 > government institution) but not really. besides, that was not the > complaint. >=20 >=20 > Looking forward, > Al Shinn --=20 http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .