On 5/30/2013 8:15 AM, RussellMc wrote: > It did not say (AFAICS) on the page that you cited that it was neutral=20 > cure so I assume it wa sacetic cure - but maybe not. If so that is=20 > enough to cause equipment fatalities in some contexts - and none at=20 > all in others. It is neutral cure. it think it says it on the package. I don't recall=20 it having the vinegar smell. The opening for the cabling is only a 1cm=20 hole so not much to seal. > Above the water table is good :-). Some sealants would allow use with=20 > net hydrostatic external pressure and liquid present. Long term SR=20 > tends not to be one of these. The problem we had with coming up with a solution for the farms wasn't=20 really water , but lack of water. The area is prone to wildfires every=20 so often and we didn't want to have to replace entire setups every time=20 brush fire flames or smoke made the equipment fail. We will still lose=20 the panels but all the hardware will be safe under ground and with 32 of=20 them every little bit of savings helps. We trialed a couple different=20 things before using the pipe and it turned out that simple was best. We=20 tried metal enclosures, ones that would work cost $300 , we tried=20 ceramic enclosures, too fragile. One of the reasons for the install was=20 to alert of a possible fire situation, each setup has a sensor the=20 farmers son , who is only 12, came up with. He used a short black=20 plastic tube with a 30awg wire inside making the connection, it just=20 lays in the brush 20 feet away and when the fire comes burns the wiring=20 and the plastic and triggers the alarm . I was thinking about passive=20 sensors, thermistors and all this other stuff, and the kid comes up with=20 something so simple. Mark --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .