-----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Jim >You could "lash up" a header cable of your own quite easily,=20 >I made a breakout cable for mine when I had a dozen chips=20 >to program for a customer a little while back. Unfortunately, this won't work for debugging. The "debug header" versions o= f these small chips are actually not the same as the regular chip. They have the debug hardware on the silicon and pins in addition to what the regular chip has. -- Bob Ammerman Ram Systems --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .