> kids are getting stupider. : > not sure I would let a classroom full of kids loose with those Those statements are related=85 I don't know how [society as a whole] can simultaneously complain about the= lack of interest in science and technology of our youth, and wish to compl= etely restrict their access to anything that might be "dangerous." Divide the class in two, give each side a handful of steppers/etc and a ner= f gun, and organize a remote-controlled nerf-gun battle! (what do you thin= k the ratio of parent comments would be like?) More politically-correct projects include the egg-bot or a computer-control= led etch-a-sketch. On a smaller scale, a "servo motor" based on stepper is probably easier to = understand than one based on a DC motor, and an interesting bit of infrastr= ucture. BillW --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .