I'm thinking that this is actually a GOOD problem to have. It seems much more acceptable these days to be a=20 software/electronics/robotics/whatever geek. So acceptable, in fact,=20 that other kids with simply idle curiosity are stopping by to take a=20 look because it's no longer as uncool as it once was. I'm actually a bit=20 jealous at how easy it is to play with this stuff for kids now.=20 Robot/lego leagues everywhere... the Internet for ideas... Sparkfun, etc=20 for parts... I expressed an interest in electronics to my parents when I was 9 or 10.=20 Not being technical, they asked my uncle what to do... he said the one=20 tool any electronics person needs most is an oscilloscope. So... they=20 bought a Heathkit Oscilloscope kit for me to build and left me=20 completely alone to attempt it. After soldering on parts for a few=20 days, I figured I was making enough mistakes that there was no way it=20 was going to work... and I didn't want to kill myself trying to plug it=20 into an AC outlet.... so I gave up on electronics and I didn't really=20 look back for almost two decades. I don't think that's as much of a problem these days. Darron Black On 5/20/13 4:26 PM, IVP wrote: >> Arduinos seem to be ubiquitous because they're really good at >> what they do... making entry level electronics easy. Use that, >> don't resent it. > Didn't intend to come across as snippy. Arduino is a good tool > > I'm mosty just disappointed that the enthusiasm and/or imagination > for adding a couple of LEDs or sensors to one and calling it a > "project" doesn't seem to extend much further than that > > Maybe it's engineering/workshop resources that are lacking. I'll > have to look into that > > Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .