High voltages, reference grounds, and probe wires all sound like electric field sensing techniques. Another possibility, if you can get at the far end of the wire, is to run a current through it, to produce a magnetic field. Then, you would use a coil of wire as a pickup. You'd ground the far end of the cable and ground one side of your driving amp. My guess is that attempting to drive a pair of wires with one as the return probably conspires to cancel out the signal you are seeking. On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Bob Blick wrote: > I put a warble tone out on a known buried wire today, using a copper > water pipe outside my house for ground. The water pipe doesn't go > underground except way on the other end of the house, so it was > sub-optimal. > > It worked great for the wire above ground, easily four feet away my > detector was clipping. > > But as soon as the wire went underground I got nothing, absolutely > nothing. The test wire is in a plastic conduit less than a foot below > ground. > > My setup used a warble tone on an MP3 player running into a > reasonably-capable integrated amplifier putting out about 25 VAC. For > the detector I had a telephone handset amplifier I modified for high > input impedance and a stiff wire probe about a foot long. > > The buried wire was a power cable, I also tried driving one conductor > signal hot and another signal ground. Not very mych range aboveground, > nothing below. > > I'll try again driving in a local ground stake. > > Bob > > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service > > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .