On 2013-05-18 12:46 AM, veegee wrote: > On 2013-05-17 7:55 PM, IVP wrote: >> Some of those would require quite some engineering though which >> I guess would put the average student off. Probably why the shiny >> things are snapped up >=20 > And therein you have captured the essence of the visual basic coder who > thinks he's "good with computers" because he figured out how to pop up > an alert box in Internet Explorer. >=20 >> It seems to me that kids now don't do most things that we used to, >> mechanically speaking, because so much now is digital and, for want >> of a better term, pre-packaged with next to no mechanical hackability. >> Or it's so cheap if it breaks you just throw it away rather than >> repair >=20 > AKA kids are getting stupider. >=20 > An XY plotter and milling machine are excellent uses for stepper motors > and not out of reach for anyone willing to put some effort into it. >=20 > Other things: robotic arms, either driven directly or via hydraulics. > The motors can power precision pumps. Harvest piston/cylinder from cheap > air-pressure toy plane, etc. Done it before, quite fun. >=20 > But as you said, too much work. Much more work than typing > digitalWrite(13, HIGH) into a window and watching that damn Arduino turn > on an LED. Who needs to learn real engineering when you can become a > "leet hacker" by copy/pasting code to turn on a light? >=20 More uses randomly thought up: * Line following robot. * Make something that will open/close your windows to regulate room temperature. Actually this one's been on my mind, didn't try it yet though. * Make a truly automatic guitar tuner. Piano tuner if you're up to it. Basically anything to do with XY motion, or robotic/automation, or something you find annoying to do and would rather have a machine do it for you. --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .