Hi Allen, unclear on a couple of things Is it your intention to make a single-sided board ? If so, just turn the Top Layer off. ie the only layer for the autorouter to work with is Bottom Layer If you were wanting to make a double-sided board, a board house would use plated-through holes, so soldering a relay won't be a problem Unless you're doing this yourself and can't do PTH at home (like me) Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .