> autorouter (I use eagle) can connect them, then why not > use the result? I certainly can't do it faster! Me too. The autorouter does most of the hard work, it's not a big deal (personally) to go over it by hand and tweak it for eg a little extra clearance here and there, remove the odd via and so on, or even just to make it 'look nicer' That's for a multi-layer board. I've got used to doing single- sided by hand, although I'm still interested to see what the autorouter suggests as a layout. Sometimes it's quite passable with no further input needed Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .