On 5/7/13 11:58 PM, YES NOPE9 wrote: > I never take anything to an appropriate expert if I can help it. > For better ( and worse ) ..... I have built & remodeled houses , rebuilt = engines & vehicles , rebuilt a ceramic toilet , designed & installed securi= ty systems at nuclear power plants, designed electronics for medical applic= ations , built battery operated firearms , etc. ..... and I am often remin= ded of Napoleon Dynamite saying "you idiot" > > Gus > Don't pretend to be an expert, in particular electronics. Probably pick=20 the brains of this list in the electronics area more, try to pay back in=20 other areas. A little of myself. Retired after 20 years at Ford=20 Cleveland Engine Plants (289, 302, 5.0l Mustang GT, 351M, 534 heavy duty=20 truck gasoline), 2.5L 4vDOHC Duratec, V6 Eco-Boost {F150, & others}=20 engines to name a few. I was part of plant (physical) engineering team,=20 the structrural/civil engineer. Handled everything from roofs to=20 underground piping and machine installations. Part of that I worked with=20 a bunch of "Car Nuts", and exposed to the design/production issues in=20 building 1500 engines in a 8 hour shift. I'm a car nut, and still=20 maintain my own vehicles, always buying the full set of service manuals=20 for the vehicle. --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .