Hi Allen, I can't add to what's already been suggested, but will offer this for your entertainment http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2318495/Gasping-drink-Ultras= onic-popping-sound-trees-thirsty-heard-time.html Scientists believe they have made the first ever recording of a tree gasping for water. Just as humans make a noise as they desperately try to gulp air, living trees make ultrasonic popping noises as they draw in as much moisture as possible to survive during a drought Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .