On Apr 29, 2013, at 4:18 PM, IVP wrote: > When did (proper) PCB CAD start ? I find claims that Stanford's SUDS ("Stanford University Design/Drawing Sys= tem) was the "first interactive CAD system for electronics/computer design"= , and there are articles on it dating back to 1974 or so. SUDS was used to= design the DEC KL10 (1975), Foonly F1, The Livermore S1 supercomputer, Ear= ly SUN boards (~1982), early cisco boards (~1989), and I don't know what el= se. All you needed was your own DEC PDP10 mainframe and a suitable graphic= s terminal. Don't forget that a "state of the art" PC circa 1989 was a 386 with 4Mbyte = of memory and an EGA display. BillW --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .