--_002_db7u3ax128ln2skaterswarbrick_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob Blick writes: > http://www.nature.com/nmat/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nmat3623.html > > Only excerpt and first few diagrams available without subscription, but > there's enough to see what they are getting at. I think it's only for > LiFePO4 batteries (3.2V) as opposed to the 4.2V ones in cellphones and > computers. That looked interesting! I used my magic powers as a student at a university to get hold of a full-text copy and thought you might be interested in some of the details. - They look at LiFePO4 and Li4Ti5O12. They say that the reason for using these rather than Li(Ni, Co, Al)O2 (my god, this is horrible to type) or others is that the first two are "safe and inexpensive". It looks like they're interested in automotive applications (where memory effects would be pretty important, I suppose) - They claim that you can see a memory effect in a single C/2 discharge-charge with LiFePO4 Playing around with Engauge digitizer, I reckon the bump you can see is about 4mV (from about 3.47V to 3.474V). However, they say that even this small memory effect can significantly throw off a state of charge calculation be relevant due to the flatness of LiFePO4's discharge curve. - A constant-current discharge down to 2.4V didn't erase the memory effect, but a subsequent full charge did. - The effect is more pronounced with higher discharge rates - They don't see any effect with the titanium-based one. - The final three pages of text are a model of the two chemical reactions that they believe explains the result (and I didn't read them carefully) Thanks for the pointer: I learned something this evening! Rupert --_002_db7u3ax128ln2skaterswarbrick_ Content-Type: text/plain; name="ATT00001.txt" Content-Description: ATT00001.txt Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ATT00001.txt"; size=224; creation-date="Mon, 15 Apr 2013 21:36:15 GMT"; modification-date="Mon, 15 Apr 2013 21:36:15 GMT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 LS0gDQpodHRwOi8vd3d3LnBpY2xpc3QuY29tL3RlY2hyZWYvcGljbGlzdCBQSUMvU1ggRkFRICYg bGlzdCBhcmNoaXZlDQpWaWV3L2NoYW5nZSB5b3VyIG1lbWJlcnNoaXAgb3B0aW9ucyBhdA0KaHR0 cDovL21haWxtYW4ubWl0LmVkdS9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZvL3BpY2xpc3QNCg== --_002_db7u3ax128ln2skaterswarbrick_-- .