On 3/30/2013 4:31 PM, William "Chops" Westfield wrote: > et started. Currently nothing out there has this market > You're conflating the old "personal computers" with the old "embedded com= puters." > If you want to replace a commodore-64, get a laptop. If you want to repl= ace a Basic52 system (which was never so easy to use), get an Arduino, Chip= Kit, or something of that ilk. If you want to replace a timex/sinclair ZX8= 1, =85 just don't; they pretty much sucked. > > No one wants to just "start programming" any more. Nor should they, real= ly. > > If you really want to learn to program on the TV you already have, you sh= ould talk the manufacturers into putting a language into the microchip that= 's already there. Plug in a USB keyboard (to the USB port that's also alre= ady there) and have it switch to "computer mode." > > BillW > > I am glad I never listen to naysayers. I just got a job designing the=20 type of system that I was talking about, and thanks to the piclist at=20 that, had I not used it I wouldn't have gotten the offer. The goals of the product will center around something similar to a self=20 contained development kit, sort of a development kit without the need=20 for a pc and code that can easily be programmed to the target mcu if the=20 user decides to take things further. I showed them the email and he=20 liked the line about no one wants to just start programming any more, he=20 laughed and said "just start programming, sounds like a slogan to me. " Sometimes it pays to keep an open mind. Mark --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .