TI has a line of microcontrollers that run on single-cell voltages, and the adapter for programming/debugging is on sale right now for $20. You still need a JTAG interface but it's a great deal especially if you want to get started with microcontrollers that run below one volt.=20 I'm giving it a try, I have a bunch of solar path lights that I've been itching to turn into something else. https://estore.ti.com/MSP-TS430L092-MSP430L092-14-Pin-Socket-Target-Board-P= 2132.aspx Bob --=20 http://www.fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .