Xiaofan Chen writes: > Jeff Post is the maintainer for picp. But his site is now down. > http://home.pacbell.net/theposts/picmicro >=20 > The latest version seems to be 0.6.8 from December 2005. > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/picp/0.6.8-1 Many thanks. > Yet another option is to use piklab (GUI and console) which > has supports for PicStart+/ > http://piklab.sourceforge.net/devices.php Thanks for the suggestion. I have a system at home with a 2.7-GHZ processor, a gigabyte of RAM which, on paper, should run gnome. As a computer user who is blind, the gnome needs to be the talking desktop known as orca. This system has occasionally displayed the video of the desktop but with no working sound, sound in command-line mode but never once has gnome and orca simply worked. If that time ever comes, I will download mplab-x and give it a go. In the brave new world of the talking GUI, you have two mountains to climb. First, the OS has to work for you. Macintosh, Windows and Linux all have screen readers for their respective GUI's. After that, you may discover that while you can run your system, the application you need doesn't talk or at least doesn't behave in a way that lets it talk properly or has no keyboard way to do mouse actions. Any of those things are show stoppers. For now, the command-line is more apt to get me to where I need to be because there is a smaller number of series Christmas lights between me and a finished project. Martin --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .