The last PicStart+ driver I had on my system was picp-0.6.7 by Cosmodog. It still compiles all be it with a couple of warnings about programming structure, but it will probably work just fine. Is there a later RS-232-capable program as the source tar ball I found on my system is from December of 2005. Nothing at all wrong with it, but we've all slept a few nights since then. Yes, the hardware is old, but it is good enough for the project at hand. Thanks. Martin McCormick --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .