These were on sale for $0.79 USD. Now they are now $1.49. They have 2 key markings for fire, police, and ambulance as well as 3 green LED, 1 yellow, and 2 red. The size is such that you can shave off about 3/32" and fit it into clear covered exterior outlet box. The face is printed on the back of a clear plastic sheet set into the front so you can peel it off and make your own if you wish. http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=3DG1 7927 Allen -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Isaac Marino Bavaresco Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 8:53 PM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [PIC] Pull Up Resistors With this arrangement you will need some unusual switches (three terminal make-make) And with the conventional method it is also possible to detect multiple simultaneous presses. Isaac Em 3/4/2013 19:25, Allen Mulvey escreveu: > Thank you all for the excellent information and resources. I > had checked Microchip and MikroElektronica sites and found > nothing. I missed the significance of the current rating for > the internal pullups. > > I have been experimenting with a slightly different kind of > matrix keypad. Instead of shorting row and column, it > grounds both. This eliminates the need to scan and allows > the selection of multiple key presses although not all may > be unique. I think much of the problem I have seen has been > caused by capacitance. Earlier I didn't think about the R-C > timer effect. If I connect the keypad with a foot of cat-5 > cable the 20k resistors work fine. If I use 6" of ribbon > cable 20k is too big but 4k7 or slightly less works fine. > There also appears to be a difference depending on which end > of the cable the resistors are attached although I have not > tested this very well.=20 > > Thanks again, > Allen > > > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .